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TOPIC: Production final steps
#379
Re:Production final steps 4 Years, 7 Months ago  
Quick knock up showing idea for Tower Floor.

As shown would I reckon require 2 extra supports to be used.

The internal triangluar brace, uncertain but woudl increase strength.

The long tall cube to stop center sag allowing quarter, half ,3 quarter or full surround towers to be made.

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#380
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Wow! Quite interesting project here!

Questions that come to me:

1) Would miniatures be moved easily with all of those added walls?
2) Could the central pillar be substituted by another auto-structure so that it is easier to have access to the central part of the tower?
3) The inner brace would surely increase the overall strength, maybe we can have a flat folded piece instead of a complete triangle ( something like this: _^_ ).

This structure will surely be produced soon, this evening I will investigate it.
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#381
Re:Production final steps 4 Years, 7 Months ago  
1) Unfortunately the two added supports would restrict finger access to the angled part.

2) This is why I selected a pillar of just 0.5", although tbh this is just one of a number of ways, but that central area will need support of your going to put anything on that area, all a matter of balance, also it provides a support for the brace

3) You flat folded peice of _^_ would indeed work, and as you seem to imply is also easier to deal with (in fact MUCH easier).

Also if doing a complete 4 sided tower, point 1 becomes mute... (bit like your bunker design but all 4 sections as tower, now thats a good size tower just in area....

The brace method could be used to strengthen any of the walkway areas, less risk of sag when you put say a 40k Metal terminator (old style) on it! (lots of weight!)
(I actually use old style 40k terminators as weight checks on constructions, not going to get much worse in such a small area.)

Just realised the 2 inner supports would not be required if the top walkway is glued! to make the whole top level one piece.
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#382
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Yes, if you glue all together you don't need a lot of reinforces. In any cases the upper level need to be glued to the walls beneath to stay in place. So, we could even think to apply the central pillar only if you are going to use those heavy metal figures on it. I think it works with general metal figures. On the other hand if you think to have a removable floor, then you probably need that central sustain. I will put it as design, leaving to the user to decide how to use it.

Maybe I could design either 1/4, 1/2, 3/4 and 4/4 of additional floor according to the number of tower quarters.
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#384
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Here my interpretation of the additional floor:



The central pillar has been replaced by a longer wall already put in place. If you glue it, no problem. If you want to remove the floor, than we have to see to add a sustain to the opposite side, maybe at least one more wall.
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#385
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Looking good.

Seems like it would make a fine addition to the set.

And the non-pillar solution looks better thatn the pillar idea
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#386
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Many thanks! Now I have to see about the textures...
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#387
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Here a little application with three floors and two sized walls:

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#388
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The lower supports would not need the extensins so would leave even more space clear int he tower, looking fantastic
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#389
Re:Production final steps 4 Years, 7 Months ago  
Thanks. Yes, it is useless, even if it gives a starting point to other walkways...

I will insert so four different supports:

1) long without brace
2) long with brace
3) short without brace
4) short with brace

In this way users can decide how to build their tower.

Another way could be that of a little added support at the base... but it would add more work.

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What about also a cross brace glued to the wall, to sustain the upper floor without gluing it?
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#390
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Sounds like an good alternative to the original twin supports
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#391
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Here the modification to the walls with the cross bar added to sustain the platform. The floor is eroded so let the underneath bar be exposed.

The second floor has back normal walls, but shorter so to be put over the ground floor.


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#392
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And finally the texture for the floor:




Now it's time for the walkway....
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#394
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Okay, I'm finally taking a break from my own projects to build some of the things I've been printing out. For the Barricades set I wanted to start with a Gate section, which means starting with a basic wall section. The textures are clean and the geometry looks good, but the glue flaps are reversed from what I'm used to doing so it took me a minute or two to wrap my brain around the build dynamic that had been presented to me. Building the basic walls is a little time consuming, but they are very sturdy and the build is very precise, just different from what I'm used to. I've become accustomed to solids that roll up and then you close the end pieces onto the glue flaps, not rolling the large sections onto the the glue flaps on the end pieces. But, as I said, that method creates a very precise and solid piece.

However, I did want to try it the other way, the one I'm used to, so I modified a wall section by drawing in new tabs onto the printout using a pen;

The one on the left is the original.
The modded version goes together faster, but can result in sloppy builds as the end-pieces don't have the pressure of the different angles to hold them into their correct position. I need to build some more pieces before I can honestly say which method I prefer.


The one on the right is my modded version, it's not apparent in the photo but there is a slight twist to the whole piece because of my improper alignment job with the end pieces.

Here's what it looks like when my Steam-Golem project attacks it;

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#395
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Thank you Eric for sharing your experiment.

Unfortunately your pictures are filtered by firewall and I cannot see them. I will do it this evening and then reply to your post. Fell free to use the Gallery to upload as many pictures you like.

The other kind of floors are almost ready: there are too many variants in them and I am losing time to collect them. Soon there will be the final result.
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